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Gold Medal 1964 Tokyo
The web site has several sections.
The list is:
1. Bob Schul Training Manual
2. BOB SCHUL Autobiography "IN
THE LONG RUN"
3. The Bob Schul Racing Team
4. Who is Bob Schul
A. Interview with runners world
Compton Inv. 1964, 13:38 American Record
5. Explanation of workouts
6. Sample workouts
7. RUNNING STORIES by Bob Schul
A. RICH BLOCK IN GERMANY
B. I'M RUNNING AS FAST AS I CAN
C. THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT
D. CONCENTRATION (Searching for the Perfect Runner)
E. MEN'S DISTANCE RUNNING COMES OF AGE
F. MAX TRUEX IN POLAND
G. ASSESSING AMERICA'S DISTANCE RUNNERS
H. TRAINING DISTANCE RUNNERS FOR
INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION
BOB SCHUL TRAINING MANUAL
I have published a training manual based upon the theory I have
used for thirty five years. As I trained with the great Hungarian,
Mihaly Igloi, I have used his theory and built on it. I am constantly
learning and try new things but the general workout pattern has
been proven to be very effective as I have had great success in
improving runners who came to me as mediocre and blossomed
into very fine runners, many reaching the international level.
The manual is available now for $12.00, which includes shipping in
the USA. Send request with your check to: Bob Schul, 3350
Boxwood Dr.,
Fairborn, Ohio 45324
. Postage in the USA is included in the price.
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THE BOB SCHUL RACING TEAM
The Club has had members
from age fourteen to sixty nine. Bob started training athletes in
1966 when he lived in California. Both men and women trained three
days a week on a track for speed work. On the other days they
went on long runs.
A partial list of club runners and their performances
follow: I began
training athletes in 1966 and since that time hundreds of runners of
all ages have trained with the Club.
Eamon O'Reilly....Georgetown University graduate, ran 8:50 for
the two mile at Georgetown in 1966. After training for eight
months he ran 2 hours, 16 minutes for the marathon in California in
1968, which was the fastest time ever run in the America's.
John Baker....University of New Mexico graduate. After a year of
training he ran a 4:01 mile indoors in 1968. John tragically died of
cancer in 1970. Subject of a book and movie called: "A Shining
Season."
John Shull....Ran 9:58 two mile in High School. Came to Wright
State where I was coaching in 1973. John was 6'2" 170 pounds.
In his Senior year he ran 14:22 for 5K on the track. He was an
"All American" in cross country and track.
Wally Saeger.....University of Wisconsin graduate. He ran in the
mid 8:50's in college for two miles. After two years of training he
ran a 2:13.9 marathon which placed him 11th in the 1980 Olympic trials in the
marathon.
Wally Saeger, Rich Davis, Ken Prior, Bill Deaton in training
Bret Hyde.....Air Force Academy graduate. Ran 8:43.4
steeplechase at the Academy. After two years of training he ran
8:25.39 in the steeplechase in 1984. Eighth in 1984 Olympic trials
in the steeplechase.

Bret Hyde
I LOST AN ATHLETE AND FRIEND TODAY
IN SORROW--BOB SCHUL
International class Steeplechaser, Bret Hyde, age 41, lost his struggle to Lou Gehrig’s disease on Sunday January 14, 2001. He was buried in Post Falls, Idaho the following Friday morning with the Fairchild Air Force Base Honor Guard giving him honor for service to his country.
Bret had been diagnosed with the disease on September 2 of 1998 and for the twenty eight months he fought for his life, he showed the same courage he had shown in his races.
As I stood watching the ceremony in this small cemetery, with a few hundred other friends, the snow was falling lightly on ground that was already white and the pine trees held the snow on their bows. On any other day it would have been a beautiful site.
An hour earlier we had attended a memorial service where I and Rob Langstaff, his friend since boyhood and once a member of the Racing Team I coached, spoke to the overcrowded room where hundreds of friends and family had gathered.
I came to know Bret when he and six other Air Force athletes came to Wright Patterson in 1981 specifically to train with the Racing Team. He had just graduated from the Air Force Academy where he had run well in the Steeplechase with a best time of 8:43.4.
As I watched him over the next few weeks, I found he had little natural speed and his fastest 400 meters was 56 seconds. This was a problem and would be a factor as he trained to become one of the best in the world.
What he did have was a strong work ethic and a drive that reminded me of my days with Mihaly Igloi and the athletes who had that same drive. It wasn’t long before he was on twice a day workouts six days a week with a long run on Sundays. It was not easy as he still had his eight hour job with the Air Force. But he had a goal and that was to qualify for the Olympic Trials in Los Angeles in 1984. He told me he would do anything I asked. He was true to his word. To be a top runner the athlete must be able to push their body even when they are hurting. When other runners back off to run in a comfortable state Bret was able to push his body and run in a discomfort zone.
That is not easy and takes courage to accomplish. And courage he had and he showed that in race after race. It was also apparent that other runners in the workouts were able to learn from Bret. Others saw how dedicated and driven he was and tried to emulate him. It was the perfect situation for me and I was able to use Bret to make him and others better runners.
When Bret arrived in Dayton, Susan Overholser, had been with the Club for many years. I don’t know how long it took but it wasn’t long before the two were dating. Over the months I watched the courtship evolve into marriage and eventually two fine boys were added to the family. Bret became a husband and a father and for those of us who watched the transition, it was what we expected. Susan and Bret were the perfect match and you could tell they loved each other very much. Bret had been a leader on the track and he carried that over to his private life. Leadership came easy to Bret, it was just the way he was. Others expected him to lead and he did in an unpretentious, easy style.
As the months passed he became a better hurdler and could take the water jump with less effort. He was now beating people who had beaten him in college. But still the basic speed was lacking. There was no way I could change his muscle tissue. We talked about changing to the 10K but his size was against him for he was 6’ 4", 177 pounds. Not good for a 10K runner, and we would continue in the steeple. Before long, Bret had become one of the best Steeplechasers in the Nation and he made us proud of his accomplishments.
By the time 1984 rolled around Bret was ready to run well and in the TAC championships he placed second and was going to the Olympic trials. When, at one time, he had wanted to take part, he was now a major player. In the trial heat I told him in order to make the final he couldn’t allow the race to be slow. His best chance was to use his strength and not allow a lesser athlete with good speed beat him in the last lap. He ran perfectly and made it to the final. With a days rest he stepped on the track with nothing to lose. Again his instructions were to force the pace. He led most of the race until the final lap when those athletes blessed with speed went by him and he placed eighth with a time of 8:27.59.
In his career he beat many athletes because of his determination and because he was able to get the most out of his body. And through it all, Bret never said, "What if." What if I had more speed. He accepted what he had and would tell me after loosing a race, "I really tried." There was never any doubt in my mind that was the case. I never saw him give up. He never gloated over a victory or dismayed over a defeat. He understood that all he could do was his best.
As his disease progressed he was in a wheelchair and his last email he sent to me, Susan told me it took fifty minutes to write three sentences. But even then he joked about it. In his last weeks he was no longer able to eat by himself or talk and he could hardly move a muscle in his body. Finally he made the decision to end it all. No more food though tubes. No more medicine to keep the blood clots from forming. No more anything, he told his wife Susan, communicating in a way only she could understand. A neighbor who had been with him through this ordeal told me Bret was not afraid to die. That does not surprise me as his courage was part of his being.
Susan, who had been his nurse, is now going to take classes to become a nurse. Paul the eldest son, age 15, is a runner as is Seth who will be 13 in February. Gene, Bret’s father, kept a scrapbook and the boys will be able to show their children the feats of their grandfather. They can be very proud of his accomplishments.
As I stood in the cemetery and watched as the Honor Guard folded the American Flag with precision, the snow continued to fall. Two Air Force Buglers stood off in the distance and once the flag was folded one of the buglers began playing Taps and the other would echo the notes. The sound came through the pines, so beautiful with the snow on their branches. When the last haunting sounds were heard there was a Twenty One Gun Salute and then an Air Force Officer carried the folded flag to Susan, and with words of thankfulness for his service to his country he presented her the flag.
A tear rolled down my cheek as I thought of this friend. Bret had shown courage in his races and over the past two years Bret would show that courage in what would be the toughest race of his life. There is no doubt he was able to do that. It is hard to understand why Bret would have to undergo this ordeal. We say it isn’t fair. Of course all who knew him will miss him. He was a friend, a competitor, a son and most of all a loving husband and father.
And now that Bret is with his God, I, like so many others can truthfully say, I am so glad he came into my life. Our paths had crossed, but the time was far too short.
Greg Reynolds....University of Illinois graduate. He ran 4:12 in the
mile in 1982 while in college. He ran 3:40.35 for 1500 meters in
1983 after eight months of training with the club team.
Owen Hamilton.....University of Texas graduate. Ran 1:49 for 800
meters at Texas. After 16 months of training ran 1:46.02, 800 in
1984. Was a member of the Jamaican Olympic team in 1984.
Rich Block......Duke University graduate. Ran 1:49 for 800 meters
in college. After two years of training ran 3:59.7 in 1984 in the
mile.
Gordon Sanders.....Hillsdale College graduate. Began easy
training in the Fall of 1985. Because of a bad back he only did
1500 miles the first year.(30:13 10K the Spring of '86) 2300 miles
the second year and a PR of 29:28. In '89 with 3000 miles of
training he ran 28:28 and 13:52 for 5K. In 1991 he won the 10K
USA road championship.
Mike Michno....Hillsdale College graduate. Mike started training
with me in September of 1984 after he had run 3:52 in the 1500
meters. In the Spring of 1985 he ran 3:44. After joining the Air
Force and moving to another state he continued to improve,
dropping his time to 3:39.
Sarah Westover..... Did not run in college. Ran 2:43 marathon
after two years of training.
Maureen Cogan....Ohio State graduate. Big Ten Champion in the
5000 meters. Best time in college was 15:57 for 5K. After two
years of training ran 33:01 for 10K on the roads.
Gary Loe..... Was a freshman at Wright State in 1975. In his
sophomore year he was "All American" in the 5K running 14:23.
Brenda Webb.... Was a freshman at Wright State in 1974. As a
sophomore she placed third in the 5K in the NCAA division I
Meet.
Jessica Kuhr...Was a freshman at Wright State in 1999. Her best
5K time in high school was 19:33. As a sophomore she improved to17:14 on the track.
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WHO IS BOB SCHUL
Bob was the 1964 Olympic Champion at 5,000 meters in Tokyo.
He held five American and one world record and is the only
American distance runner who has won a Gold Medal while being
the favorite going into the Games. Picked by Sports Illustrated and
Track and Field News to win the Gold Medal based on his having
the fastest time in the world that year (13:38) at 5K(world
record was 13:35), as well as setting a new world record in the
two mile (8:26.4) and ran 3:58.9 in the mile. (All were run on dirt tracks)
(The 13:38 is equal to a 13:14 on the all-weather tracks.)
Bob was born and raised twenty miles North of Dayton, Ohio on
a ninety five acre farm outside of the small village of West Milton.
He had severe allergies and as a small child was close to death on
two occasions from severe asthma attacks. Although the family
doctor told his parents not to place too much stress on his body
with physical activity, they allowed him to participate where he
could. The worse time of the year was from the middle of July until
the first frost, which meant he was always last in cross country at
the beginning of the season. As Bob would tell you after the frost,
it was as if he had a new body and he would improve overnight to
lead the team.
His high school times were not spectacular, 4:34 in the mile; 2:04
at 880 yards and 51.5 in the 440 on a relay. (cinder tracks) As a
sophomore at Miami University (Ohio), he ran 4:12.1 in the mile
for a new school record.
After joining the Air Force he finally was stationed in California in
1960 and a year later he met the famed Hungarian Coach, Mihaly
Igloi. In the summer of 1961 the Los Angeles Track Club was
formed and quickly became the best distance Club in the nation
with such athletes as Jim Beatty, Jim Grelle, Laszlo Tabori, Max
Truex, Bobby Seaman and Ron Larrieu. The Club held all the
American records from 1500 meters to 10,000 meters. About
forty highly dedicated athletes trained with Igloi while Bob was
there from september of 1961 to September of 1963. Bob will tell
you it was Igloi who made it possible for him to win the Gold
Medal. "He taught me how to train my body and my mind. Those
two years, working alongside those other great runners, were
years to be cherished"
Mihaly Igloi
INTERVIEW WITH RUNNERS WORLD
Bob Schul by Peter Gambacciniwritten in 2001
Runner's
World Daily: Being favored in the Olympics, as you were in
1964, was unique for a U.S. distance runner. How did you feel about that
role? RWD:
Michel Jazy had a silver medal from the 1500 in 1960. Did his lead late
in the Tokyo 5000 give you much concern? RWD:
What made the L.A. Track Club so great? RWD:
To those who know your competitive running life, what would be the
biggest surprise in your autobiography? Please see the Brief Chat Index for a complete listing of linked Chats that have appeared in Runner's World Daily from 1996 to 2000. |
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EXPLANATION OF WORKOUTS
To do the workouts you must understand the terminology.
Therefore allow me to go over the meanings of the words I will
use in the sample workouts. First there are various speeds you will
be using. They are "fresh", "good" and "hard". I do not run my
athletes "all out" as I find there are too many injuries or potential
injuries when the body is pushed to that extreme. Distance runners
do not need to run all out, since in a race, when they are sprinting,
it is not how fast their muscles will contract but how fast they will
contract when tired. There are efforts in between the "fresh, good
and hard" but they are subtle and will not be used in this
correspondence.
"Fresh" running is faster than a jog but there is no pressure on the
body. Everybody is different depending on their natural reflex
action. Some of you will run 200 meters in 40 seconds while
others may run 30 seconds. No matter, it is the effort that is
important.
"Good" means that you now have some pressure on the upper
body. Somewhere between 5/8 and 3/4 speed. "Hard" means you
are running about 7/8. Now there is one other very important part
of the workout. That is the "build-up". If I tell an athlete to do
good build up, that means you will start "fresh" for 1/3 of the run,
change to a gear I call "fresh to good", for 1/3 of the run and finish
the last 1/3 at "good". If you are doing a "hard" buildup, you run
the first 1/3 at "fresh", the second 1/3 at "good" and the last 1/3 at
"hard". Obviously you should be well conditioned to attempt
"hard".
Where you run the intervals does not matter. It could be on a
track or a nice grass field. Don't be too concerned with exact
distances. If you use a park then estimate the distance and use it.
Try to stay off the roads when doing these, as a softer surface will
treat your legs much better. Even your long runs might be done on
a softer surface if it is available. Trails would be great for your long
runs. Be sure to wear good training shoes, not racing flats. Save
those for the races.
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SAMPLE WORKOUTS
The following workouts were posted for my Club athletes who
could not make it to the regular sessions. They give an idea on
how a session is handled.
TUESDAY, 1 1/2 mile jog, stretch (8-10 minutes), 1 1/2 mile jog,
stretch, 10 X 100 meters (fresh), 5 x 200 meters (fresh)(50 meter
walk), lap jog, stretch, 8 x 100 meters (fresh), 5 X 300 meters (2
fresh, 1 good build up, 2 fresh.(55 meter walk)(If you are on a
track, walk across the field.) (normally written 2fr, 1gbup) It is
understood that you repeat. If I had said 6 times then you would
have run a good build up on number six. In the case stated you
would have repeated the two fresh only. lap jog, stretch, 8 X 100
meters (fresh), 9 X 160 meters. (2 fr, 1 gbup)(40 meter walk)
This time you are repeating three times. , lap jog, 10 X 100
meters(shake-up) A term I use which means very easy, shaking
the arms to your sides at times so you completely relax and the
heart-rate returns to a lower rate. I do not write the "shake-ups" in
the workout as they are understood to be done as the last thing
you do.Everyone does the same warm-up and the initial 10 x 100
(fresh). Therefore I will not write them down anymore. Also
everyone does the jog lap and the 8 X 100 meters (fresh) between
sets, so it is now understood and I will not write it down any more
either.
Therefore this workout will be written as (5 x 200) (fresh)(50
meter walk), (5 X 300)(2 fr, 1gbup)(55 meter walk), (9 X
160)(2fr, 1 gbup)(40 meter walk)
Thursday: (6 X 160)(fresh)(40 meter walk), (5 X 200)(fresh)(50
meter walk), (6 X 160)(2 fr, 1 gbup)(40 meter walk)
Saturday: (6 X 200)(fresh)(50 meter walk), (5 X 350)(1fr,
1gbup)(50 meter walk), (8 X 160)(3 fr, 1gbup)(40 meter walk)
I walk all intervals for relaxation and the walk distances are
normally standard. Therefore I will not list the walk interval any
more unless we use another distance. Also after the initial
stretching in the warm-up phase,the stretching between sets should
only be for 5-6 minutes. You should also do ten modified sit-ups
between sets. Be sure to stretch the achilles, calf muscles
and I.T.
band at all stretching periods.
I suggest all runners keep a log and write down their workouts.
Also I suggest you take your heart-rate after a set you find taxing
and write that in the book. Also I want a morning heart-rate, when
you first wake up. Don't guess and I know you will forget from
time to time.
Below are workouts given for a week to my Wright State athletes.
girls: Tues: 6 x 160 (2 fr, 1 gbup) 5 x 300 (fr) 6 x 200 (2 fr, 1
gbup) 6 x 160 (fr)
Thurs: 6 x 160 (fr) 4 x 200 (fr) 6 x 160 (fr)
Sat: Race or: 5 x 200 (fr) 6 x 350 (2 fr, 1 gbup) (50 meter walk)
8 x 160 (3 fr, 1 gd)
Boys: Tues: 6 x 200 (fr) 5 x 350 (1 fr, 1gbup)(50 meter walk) 6 x
160 (fr) 5 x 300 (1 fr, 1gbup) (50 meter walk)
Thurs: 5 x 200 (fr) 10 x 160 (2 fr, 2 gbup) 6 x 200 (fr)
Sat: Race or 8 x 160 (fr) 5 x 400 (pushing a little)(Time
these)(200 walk) 12 x 160 (fr)
Workouts for week of July 12, (girls)
Tues: 5 x 200 (fr) 4 x 350 (1 fr, 1 gbup) 4 x 350 (fr) 6 x 160 (2fr,
1gbup)
Thurs: 4 x 200 (fr) 10 x 160 (2f, 2 gbup, 1 gd) 6 x 200 (fr)
Sat: 9 x 160 (2 fr, 1gbup) 4 x 400 (fr to gd) (means some
pressure, time these) 5 x 160 (fr) 4 x 300 (fr to gd)
Boys
Tues: 9 x 160 (2 fr, 1gdbup) 5 x 400 (fr to gd) (some pressure,
time all 400's) 5 x 200 (fr) 5 x 350 (fr to gd)
Thurs: 8 x 160 (fr) 6 x 200 (2 fr, 1 gbup) 10 x 160 (fr)
Sat: 6 x 200 (2 fr, 1 gbup) 6 x 400 (fr to gd) 8 x 160 (fr) 4 x 200
(1 fr, 1 gbup)
Workouts for week of July 19, (girls)
Tues. 6 x 160 (2 fr, 1 gbup) 4 x 400 (fr to gd)(some
pressure)(time all 400's) 6 x 160 (fr) 5 x 350 (1 fr, 1 gbup)
Thurs: 5 x 160 (fr) 5 x 300 (2 fr, 1 gbup) 6 x 200 (fr)
Sat: 6 x 200 (fr) 8 x 300 (2 fr, 2 gbup) 6 x 160 (fr) 3 x 350 (1 fr,
1 gd)
Boys:
Tues: 5 x 200 (fr) 6 x 350 (1 fr, 1 gbup) 6 x 160 (1 fr, 1 gd) 4 x
300 (1 fr, 1 gd)
Thurs: 6 x 200 (fr) 5 x 300 (2 fr, 1 gbup) 10 x 160 (3 fr, 2 gbup)
Sat: 9 x 160 (2 fr, 1 gbup) 5 x 400 (fr to gd) 6 x 160 (fr) 5 x 300
(1 fr., 1 good)
These are medium workouts so the athlete can do can do long runs
on the other days. Since they are training by themselves in some instances I
feel it is better to keep the interval days lighter so they don't have a mental
problem with them. Once the athlete is with me I will increase their work load
in the intervals but now they will be running as a group and it is much easier
mentally.
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Prefontaine ran 13:22 which would place him fifth on the list. Since he ran on an all-weather track there is no reduction in time.
Why haven't the US runners improved since the mid sixties. We
should have ten runners and possibly more running below 13:10 for 5000 meters. Since that is not the case we should ask the
question, "why?"
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ASSESSING AMERICA'S DISTANCE RUNNERS
How does one assess the greatness of America’s distance runners? Each generation has pushed beyond the one before with better training, better tracks and better equipment. So how do we place these people in order of greatness?
I suppose we must first look to see how they fared at the world level. Did they win any major competitions. Did they set any American and World records. If we are going to compare these people we must have some way to measure the environment of when they ran. Maybe that is impossible but we know that the modern all-weather tracks are much faster than the old cinder tracks. How much faster? Hard to say, but obviously the difference must be close to two seconds per lap. Why is this so? First there was little rebound from the cinder tracks, in effect you had to work much harder to achieve the same stride length. Stride length is important as the stronger push off you have off the back foot the more time you will spend in the air with both feet off the ground and therefore your stride length will be longer without any additional effort.If we would theoretically give four inches less per stride and the length for a stride is seven feet, then we must take approximately sixty two (62) strides per lap. In a five thousand meter race that means you would take 775 strides times the four (4) inches (lost) and you would have a difference of 258 feet or 86 yards. That 86 yards is worth 13 to 14 seconds. That alone is a major difference.
Secondly, we must account for the condition of the track. Obviously an all-weather track is always the same, stride after stride. The runner does not have to worry about stepping in a hole. On the cinder track the runners, with each push off, create a small hole that causes the runners foot to shift each time he hits a hole. This happens almost constantly as the meet is in its latter stages or in a long race where many runners are tearing up the same lane. This means that each athlete is constantly fighting to use his energy to stay in a straight line as he is being thrown from side to side as his foot lands. In other words the athletes energy is not all going forward but some is used to keep the body from shifting. Runners on all-weather tracks do not have this problem. The difference is easily one second per lap and possibly more. For those of us who ran on both type of tracks the difference was tremendous. That would mean the cinder tracks are 12 to 25 seconds slower, due to this factor, than the all-weather tracks.
Those two differences would mean the cinder tracks were 25 to 38 seconds slower in a 5K race than if that same race was run on an all-weather track
Another consideration and a major one is if the athlete won the race. If they did not, then we would have to assume they were running as fast as they could at the time. Obviously if the race was tactical and he lost, then we could not compare. On the other hand if the athlete won the race we might assume he could run faster. One way to ascertain this would be to look at his finishing lap. If the last lap was exceptionally fast it would show that the athlete was not in any stress going into that lap.
We must also take into account the competition. Obviously every athlete runs faster when the competition in the race is excellent. Fast times normally come from fast competitors. There are cases when an athlete does a great time on his own but it is rare. If rabbits are used it is even better than having great competitors in the race. The athlete does not have to worry about tempo and all they have to do is concentrate on the job at hand.
Is this logical? It would be interesting to do a scientific study so we know for sure.
TRAINING DISTANCE RUNNERS FOR INTERNATIONAL COMPETITION
Written August 13, 2000
In 1996, when I was in Atlanta for the Olympic Games I was invited to speak to the employees and guests of Nations Bank. Afterward as I mingled with the guests a gentleman joined the group and was introduced as Mr. McCall. After five minutes one of the other people in the party mentioned that Mr. McCall was the CEO of Nations Bank. This was the perfect opportunity to relate my ideas on how the United States could bring distance running back to where it had been in the 60's. When the perfect time came I spoke to Mr. McCall concerning my ideas and he seemed very interested and asked me to write him a proposal. When I returned home I did just that and I will place those ideas here for you to read with updates. I also contacted Craig Masback and informed him of the conversation and gave him Mr. McCalls name and address so he could follow up and use his good office to help bring my ideas to fruition.
The United States has fallen to a second rate power in distance running from the 1500 meters to the 10,000 meters. During these last several years we have not had many runners ranked in the top ten in the world in any of the distance events. In this Olympic year of 2000 we still have athletes who have not qualified for the Olympic standards and now we have only one representative in the men's and women's marathon.
This should never happen to the United States with our population, standard of living and technology. However something is lacking or we wouldn't have this situation. It is easy to point fingers but at the same time, we must have an honest discussion if we are going to remedy the situation. So what are the possible reasons? Do the distance runners of this nation lack determination? Are they willing to pay the price to keep up with the world? I can't answer that since I don't know what they are doing in their training. Some are very dedicated I am sure and would be very upset if they were told they don't have enough dedication.
Are we keeping up with the training. Since I have been training athletes for some thirty five years I know you have to continually experiment and therefore my training methods are better now then when I ran in the Olympics in 1964. I have always believed to be a proper coach you must watch your athletes in the workout and adjust the workout to how the athlete feels and is performing on that day. I hear constantly from athletes that their workouts are posted on bulletin boards and they are expected to do the workout. That is not coaching in my opinion.
And that is the third reason, do we have coaches who understand what it takes and have they trained at the levels they are asking their athletes to do. That is not to say they had to be international runners but I believe it would be helpful since they would more fully understand the psychological aspects of International competition. If you haven't been there how can you give advice.
Whatever the reason, we must find an answer. If I can go back to the Los Angeles Track Club which was and still is the best Club Team ever in the History of the United States, that would be the model for future clubs in the United States. I am not talking about a "paper" club where athletes come together to represent a club but never train together. The Los Angeles Track Club trained under Mihaly Igloi, the great Hungarian coach and only those athletes who were training with him were allowed to carry the colors of the club into competition. They trained thirteen times a week. Twice a day Monday through Saturday and once on Sunday. And I will tell you it was very seldom an athlete missed a workout.
Can this be done again? Of course it can and in the last few months the USAT&F has brought into being two clubs. One of those will be in Pocatello, Idaho and the other in Seattle, Washington. I don't know who will coach those clubs so I cannot give an opinion on how successful they will be.
However it is a start and the USAT&F should continue to back clubs throughout the United States. In different locations corporations must be persuaded to back these clubs. They must be convinced that backing such a club would be good for their bottom line. What better way to advertise their product than to have their name in road races throughout the United States and on tracks throughout the world. Obviously these athletes would be out front and would receive publicity in many magazines. Sponsors would not have to be shoe companies but any company in the city where the Club will train.
The important point is we need many different systems to train these athletes. All coaches feel their system is the best, otherwise they wouldn't use it. But all athletes will not prosper under the same system. Personalities differ and the psychology of training must suit each athlete.
The important item is to pick the athletes for each Club and the training system which is to be used. Each club coach should interview a number of athletes to see if they would fit into his system. I would want to use some psychological tests and interviews with a psychologist before I chose the people to train.
Even though all the athletes in my era worked full time and still trained twice a day I believe it would be best to have the athletes work part time, probably four hours, five days a week. That would be a necessity since too much down time would not be best psychologically. I don't believe it would be a problem to convince various companies to hire these people on a part time basis.
So what is the next step. The USAT&F people must be the catalyst. They must be the ones to see to it that press releases are given to all media. They should have meetings with every coach who is qualified and wishes to have a Club team. They would help in contacting athletes so they are aware of the opportunities. Each coach could do it on their own but that is not the way it should be done.
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PSYCHOLOGY OF
COMPETITION August 20,2000 Why do people compete? Can you think of anything more destructive
psychologically. The worry, upset stomach, sleepless nights. Of course there are
all levels of competition and I would assume from observing the human race over
these sixty plus years that not everyone likes to compete at very high levels.
In fact my best guess is that only a small minority love the high level of
competition. Now I am talking about competition that can keep you awake at night wondering
if you have done the right things to be at your best. It doesn’t have to be in
the world of sports but exists in business, religion, the arts etc. The level of
competition where you put everything on the line, do or die as they say. But I have been in the world of business and the only time I felt the same as
when I was competing in sport was when my livelihood was at stake. In other
words something must be at stake or at least you feel something is at stake. In
sports it may be as simple as your reputation. When I was in high school at the State competition I was as nervous or maybe
more so than when I stepped to the line for an important international race.
Why? I had nothing to lose except my self imposed reputation. I wasn’t
expected to win by anyone, even myself. But there was something, some idea in my
mind, that I must run well, for if I didn’t I would bring shame upon myself.
Is that what it was? A mentally contrived idea of my own making. Humans, because we are thinking animals, have a way of making too much of an
ordeal. We worry about what might be and not what is. Many times we make things
worse than they are. Of course I can think of some scenarios that are so bad our own minds cannot
comprehend what is going to happen to us. When something goes wrong with our
bodies, something that is life threatening, we have a hard time comprehending.
We worry about the situation. We don’t have to contrive anything. What is real
is real enough, there is no reason to go beyond reality. Having said all that let me go to the part of competition I know the best.
Man against man, head to head, with something at stake. As I look back I was
more nervous when I was not as well prepared as I wanted to be. But what does
that mean? How did I know that I wasn’t prepared? I surely didn’t know what
my competitors were doing in their training. I thought I was doing everything
possible in my training in high school. Of course as I look back I think how
funny that statement is. If I was doing fifteen miles a week it would have been
good. When I was in High School I remember lining up for the State Mile race and
being so nervous I walked off the track and threw-up. I did it in college too
and as I look back I realize I wasn’t handling the situation but I was
allowing the situation to handle me. Later I made a discovery, a mental awakening if you will. I decided I would
only run as well as the shape I was in. Oh I knew I could factor in the
excitement of the race but that would always be there. The one thing I could
control was the work I could and would do in the weeks, months and years prior
to the race. Therefore if I was prepared properly I could and would run well.
Being prepared properly meant that I was doing more and better work than my
competitors. How did I know I was in better condition? How did I know I was doing more
work? I didn’t, that’s right I didn’t. So how do you assess your condition
against those who want to run you into the ground. You step to the same starting
line and test your body against theirs. Your Physical conditioning and your
mental conditioning is put to the test. If you lose you spend some time
re-evaluating your training. Where can I change the training so I can become a
better athlete? Do I spend more time running, run more miles, run faster in my
workouts, eat better, sleep better. You look at your entire life and learn to
treat your body as a machine. How do you make this machine more perfect? Check
everything, even the way you breathe. As your races improve your mental state improves. There is no doubt that
success begets success. When you finally believe totally in yourself, when
everything has come together, when workouts that once were difficult have become
easy and hard days of the past are no longer hard and you have moved to a higher
plateau, then you are ready to test your rivals. Now you can compete. That is the reason records continue to go down. Athletes continually test
themselves against their rivals. When they lose they realize they must train a
little harder and a little smarter. They do that and beat their rivals and then
someone else goes to a different level. It is a constant reaching for better
training. Isn’t it interesting that someone fifty years ago didn’t train like
athletes of today who are setting world records. Why didn’t they take a
quantum leap. Why didn’t they say to themselves, my training is ridiculous, I
am going to increase the load four fold. They didn’t and therefore records
continued to fall slowly. Of course we must remember running tracks and shoes
have also helped to bring records down and we must put those items in proper
perspective. (Take two seconds per lap from cinder track records over
all-weather tracks.) Getting back to the competitive side of racing, runners come to the race with
different intensities. If we could measure the physical fitness of everyone in a
race we would find several runners with near equal cardiovascular fitness.
However one of these athletes would be able to beat the others most of the time.
Why? Because that person is able to concentrate on the race better than his
rivals. And in many cases the athlete is able to push through discomfort better
than the others. That is a part of the race we never know. How do you measure how much
discomfort the athlete is able to withstand. Many athletes will back off when
they feel their bodies in that discomfort zone. Some are able to set the
discomfort aside and continue pushing the body. That is not to say they don’t
feel the pain, it is to say they have learned to deal with it. Is it possible to train the athlete to accept more pain or is it a
personality trait. It may be both. I have come across athletes who seem to have
the natural ability to push their bodies to extremes. But at the same time I
believe I have been able to train all my athletes to push harder in races. Learn
to live with the pain. There have been times when I was so tired in races,
trying to stay close to the leaders, I had fleeting thoughts that soon I would
have to drop off the pace. But I was able to say, it will only hurt for a short
time, two, three, four minutes is such a short time, don’t slow down, don’t
back off. There is no doubt there are runners who do not win, who run harder, enduring
more discomfort, than the people who beat them. They are tougher
psychologically, but have not placed their bodies into the same cardiovascular
condition as those who beat them. Oh, I realize that on certain days there are
other factors, but if we could rid ourselves of those factors the above would be
true. Then, of course, we must remember genetics. My point is then, that it is not enough to have the body in great
cardiovascular condition. A top athlete must be able to concentrate totally on
the task and have the ability to run through discomfort. It is the mental side
of racing. Yes, some athletes are born with superior attributes (genes) and they
will be able to get to the top if they are able to put the other two factors
together. The tough competitor is one who can push through discomfort. A person who has
the ability to put up with more pain than their competitors. All other factors
being equal it is this person who will win the race.
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Bob Schul #15 running the steeplechase
in Brussels in 1961